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There was no Valerian II, so Wiki policy of not using ordinals should apply: hence, Valerian, rather than Valerian I. Keeping the same in mind, the page has been moved. -- Emsworth 20:39, Jun 23, 2004 (UTC)

The fate of Valerian is greatly debated. The story of his execution and skinning is only one of the many stories told about him. Other accounts talk about "an honoured captive" which was kept in the court indeed as a trophy. There also is the story that the Valerian and other Roman captors were settled in the city if Shushtar and contributed to the building of the famous man-made waterfalls there. This needs to be researched more thoroughly.--Khodadad 02:42, 14 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

The ancient sources, as Lactantius, claim he was humiliated ans executed.--Panairjdde 13:29, 26 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Valerian Persecution

Nothing is said at all of the persection of the Christian Church under this emperor. It not only stands by itself as an important historical era but also provides the background for the Christian observation of the Feast of Saint Peter and Saint Paul on 29 June.

--Xrysostom 19:33, 28 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

It's a weird omission because it sheds light on the story of Valerian's demise at the hands of Shapor. Being as notable a persecution as it was I have no idea why the author left it out. - JorgeK — Preceding unsigned comment added by 159.53.46.140 (talk) 16:38, 25 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, a ludicrous omission which I have tried to rectify by adding a section on the matter.Smeat75 (talk) 05:38, 12 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

molten gold?

Either their has been a mix up or a coincidence. The parthian persian Surena forced Crassus to swallow molten gold after his defeat at Carrhae.

there is no reputable proof that Crassus was forced to drink swallow molten gold, same goes for Valerian. Nathraq (talk) 21:27, 19 November 2007

Cassius Dio vol 40: "And not only the others fell, but Crassus also was slain, either by one of his own men to prevent his capture alive, or by the enemy because he was badly wounded. This was his end. 3 And the Parthians, as some say, poured molten gold into his mouth in mockery; for though a man of vast wealth, he had set so great store by money as to pity those who could not support an enrolled legion from their own means, regarding them as poor men. 4 " I say that Cassius Dio's history is worth mentioning (even if other evidence opposes it, and should therefore also be mentioned). Mang (talk) 13:47, 11 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

But as for Valerian, I have found sources which mention Sapor using him as a furniture, but not having gold down his throat. With regard to this unusual method of execution, I still believe that the first and best-documented instance is the death of Manius Aquillius (consul 101 BC). Mang (talk) 14:09, 11 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Valerian seized by Shapur ?

Is there any reference for seizing Valerian by Shapur. if not, I am going to delete it. Anooshahpour (talk) 22:48, 20 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

which would have been immediately reverted, as this is a historical fact - just tagging for inline citation would be appropriate

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