Talk:List of Final Fantasy characters

This article was nominated for deletion on 2006 August 13. The result of the discussion was no consensus.

Monster names in FFVIII

Is there any reason why non-boss monsters are listed for Final Fantasy VIII? I don't think they provide much benefit, and it doesn't make sense to list them for one game and not the others (which I certainly would not want to do.) How about deleting the non-bosses from the list, renaming it "Other Monsters" like the other sections, and putting the Final Fantasy Bestiary in the See Also section at the top of the entire page? Dalton Imperial 00:41, 7 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Dr. Kadowaki

The Dr. Kadowaki character (at the bottom of the article) is not placed in any games's section. I can't remember what game he's in, so could someone put him in place? -- LGagnon

Took care of it. Just as a note, Kadowaki is a she :P -- StellarFury

English/Japanese Name Order

Many of the names (especially in the FF V and VI sections) were placed with the Japanese version as the main and the American version in the secondary position. Keeping in mind that this is the English version of the article, I thought it best to flip them around to their current locations. However, for Final Fantasy I, II, VIII, IX, X, and X-2, I'm not sure if there are any discrepancies or if there are which one is listed first. If anyone knows and can fix the rest of it if need be, that'd be great.
--TheGrza 22:24, Sep 20, 2004 (UTC)

I also think that we should stick to either the english or the japanese names for the character links (see FFVI and FFVII). The current setup is very confusing. --analoguedragon 13:12, 17 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Tables

Any way anyone can fix those awful looking tables? --TheGrza 07:30, Oct 12, 2004 (UTC)

"Japanese" names

I'd also like to note that a lot of the "Japanese names" are actually fan translations of names. For example, in FF5, it lists the 1992 main character's name as "Batz". I don't ever recall there being a translation that called him "Batz". Only that his Japanese name was "BAATSU", that the fan translations called him "Butz" (horrible name, IMO), and that the official translation calls him "Bartz". Similarly, I recall of no translation that called Galuf's granddaughter "Kululu".

There are similar problems with the FF6 "Japanese names". For example, strictly translating from the kana, Sabin's Japanese name would be "MASSHyu". The "yu" is pronounced. Also, Kefka's name is pronounced with a hard k sound. I dunno why or who translated the japanese kana (literally "KEFUKA") as "Cefca".

The table headings "Amano" and "Nomura" seem to suggest that that Amano and Nomura gave these characters names in Roman characters. I highly doubt that and I have yet to see a source that proves that to be true.

The only list of character names that fits standards is the FF2 character list. Until the others are fixed (either a source is sited for the "Japanese names" or the literal translations for the kana are used), I'm going to mark this as references uncited. Viltris 05:47, 16 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Right-- and there's also a character in Suikoden whose katakana name is "Masshu"; it was translated as "Mathiu" in English. I suspect the original intended name for Edgar's brother was probably "Matthew" or some variant thereof.

It's often really difficult to figure out what the katakana names are actually intended to be in English, because sounds like "l" and "th" and so forth can't be represented. I'm pretty sure that the FF5 character's name was spelled "Kururu" in katakana, and there's no agreement as of yet on what the English spelling of that was supposed to be. So some of the "original" vs. "translated" spellings seem pretty fishy to me, too. There's no way to tell with katakana whether サラ is supposed to be Sarah or Sara, for instance.

My personal preference would be to give the kana and romaji alongside the English name instead of "Japanese name." I noticed that was done in the first part of the FF3 section, but not in any of the others.

As far as I know, Amano didn't have much to do with the character names-- he was the character design artist for the first six games, but there were a lot of other people who were responsible for coming up with the names and backstories. --Sethrenn 06:16, 5 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Fan translations, Japanese names

Is it really necessary to have the names from the unofficial fan translations? They aren't officially related to the game. Also, with the "Japanese" names, wouldn't it be better to write the romaji equivilant of the real Japanese name? --TheEmulatorGuy 02:29, 6 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Deletion discussion

I'm sure some of you will disagree with the deletion request, but I'd ask if you discuss it here first before removing. I don't know of any reason to keep the article, and it seems the same decision was decided with Final Fantasy locations. --TheEmulatorGuy 05:33, 9 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The only problem I see is that there are a few (notably Final Fantasy I and FF Tactics Advance) that don't have a main article for their character lists. 142.167.154.187 13:55, 9 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I do agree that this list seems sort of pointless but I don't know anywhere else where you could put the Template: Final Fantasy characters that would make sense. About above, it shouldn't be too hard to create character list pages for the few games that don't have them yet. Axem Titanium 15:59, 9 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

That template is the first thing I thought of when nominating the article. We would simply follow the format of Final Fantasy locations (eg. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Final_Fantasy_VIII_locations) and, like the locations, provide a link to the category (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Final_Fantasy_characters) from the main Final Fantasy template. --TheEmulatorGuy 19:18, 9 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Sounds good. Is in possible to redirect this page to a Category page? Axem Titanium 20:18, 9 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

It may be possible, but I suspect it's frowned upon. Category listings generally don't have much contextual information, and I think it might be a little confusing to simply dump users there. This has been talked about before: I think the original plan was to retool this article as a list of characters from Final Fantasy (the original NES game), once we'd moved information specific to other games in the series to their own articles. That might still be feasible: if not, I think it's probably best just to delete this article. I can't really see it creating much controversy. – – Sean Daugherty (talk) 21:30, 9 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I am the admin reviewing the proposed deletion. Since there is a discussion, and this article has been highly edited, this can only be deleted through Articles for deletion. Please nominate and discuss there.--Kungfu Adam ^(talk) 15:04, 13 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Final Fantasy

I'm going to be bold and change this to a list of Final Fantasy (I) characters. --TheEmulatorGuy 03:41, 19 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Final Fantasy vs. Final Fantasy I

I notice that the article has been moved from List of Final Fantasy characters to List of Final Fantasy I characters. I understand that the change was made to avoid confusion, but, generally speaking, we don't refer to the game as Final Fantasy I, and, technically speaking, it's not actually called Final Fantasy I. Personally, I'd prefer if we stuck with "List of Final Fantasy characters," both to correspond to our other articles, and to avoid using an unofficial title for the game. To avoid too much confusion, a disambiguation note could be added near the top of the article to clarify matters. Thoughts, anyone? – Sean Daugherty (talk) 01:29, 29 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Aye it was me and I got outvoted :( Fixing it now Renmiri 15:39, 31 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]