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Move from Avi to Edward Irving Wortis

To quote from the Naming conventions, Use the most common name of a person or thing that does not conflict with the names of other people or things. Clearly this article does not meet that convention. There are too many people named Avi and you also have the even more common avi video files. The proposed move should change articles to the convention. I should also note that Avi is the common nickname for Avraham and Abraham which are common Jewish names. Vegaswikian 00:05, 13 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Voting

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Support, as .avi files are more common in usage. Olessi 23:00, 13 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Support this move and the dab page at Avi, but Avi (author) would be okay, too. Kusma (討論) 17:32, 14 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Support the two moves as per my earlier comments below --Lox (t,c) 22:47, 14 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Support renaming to Edward Irving Wortis as per Vegaswikian and others. Can't sleep, clown will eat me 18:57, 16 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Support avi is just a, as described in the article, a nickname, so his real name, Edward Irving Wortis, should be used Skittlesrgood4u 16:32, 9 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Discussion

I have to disagree. This author is known as "Avi." That is the name on his books when they are published. He isn't known by Edward Irving Wortis. If there are other articles that share the same name, how about a disambiguation page, rather than a page move? Joyous | Talk 00:45, 13 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- The complete proposal on the move page includes a second step which is to move the dab page here. Sorry I left that out of my opening comments. Vegaswikian 01:35, 13 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Oh. Well, carry on, then. Joyous | Talk 01:57, 13 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I agree with these two moves (Avi → Edward Irving Wortis and Avi (disambiguation) → Avi). Since I don't really see these as controversial moves, I haven't created a subheading for voting. If of course anyone objects to these two moves, please do go ahead and create a vote subheading. --Lox (t,c) 17:49, 13 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- I would suggest moving Avi to Avi (author), and mentioning his "real" name in the initial text, as is done with Cher. Joyous | Talk 20:23, 13 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  - As I understand the naming convention, Edward Irving Wortis should be used unless that name is a problem with other persons. Using Avi (author) assumes that this person would be the only author with that name. What might work, if you feel strongly about this, is a redirect from Avi (author) to the real article. Personally I see this as more confusing. Vegaswikian 20:31, 13 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
    - I wouldn't worry about the redirect, then. I can't imagine anyone typing in "avi (author)". Joyous | Talk 23:38, 13 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
      - Filing this under Edward Wortis is a very strange choice. Avi is in fact the only author publishing solely under the name Avi. It is how he publishes, how his readers know him, and how people who know him personally address him. It's the only name he uses. Ask any children's librarian or reviewer about Avi, and they'll know just who you mean. Ask them about Edward Wortis, and you're in for a blank look. Also, using Edward Wortis here is inconsistent with Wikipedia's treatment of Cher, Madonna, etc.

Moved. —Nightstallion (?) 09:39, 17 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I agree because if he wants to the nickname his sister gave him than he can use it and that is his choice. We all have a right to be called by what ever name we want.

In 1994-95 in my sixth grade class we had a phone interview with him that was played for us. A few years prior he had given a phone interview answering questions from the sixth grade class at my school. He spoke of disagreements with his parents which led him to use his pen name rather then his real name. If I recall correctly he didn't feel as though his family name should recieve the credit from his work becuase of the lack of support he received from them. Anyone else know anything of this?

This is quite weird, because in this site [1], it is written, "...Avi kept writing and he credits his family's emphasis on the arts for his perseverance."--Idontknow610 (talk) 18:57, 25 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

He is still very much alive?

The language used in the article is appropriate for a blog, not an encylcopedia article. I didn't realize that the fact that he is a children's author required his biography to be written by children, which is what it seems like. JaneDOA 16:54, 17 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Move to Avi (author)

I suggest this page be moved to Avi (author). The naming conventions guideline states that the most common name should be used as Using a full formal name requires people to know that name, and to type more. SmileToday☺(talk to me , My edits) 21:36, 31 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Information

This biography lacks information. The reference site of Scholastic doesn't even open.--Idontknow610 (talk) 18:50, 25 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Apologies

I apologize for all the reverts to remove vandalism that I made. It makes for a sloppy history, I know. I really cannot explain why once I had it correct, I then screwed it up! Again, sorry. — Spike Toronto 16:48, 2 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Blanking of the novel articles.

Please note the blanking and conversion to redirects of many of this author's novels, mostly with the edit summary "not notable". Note also that the redirects aren't categorized afterwards (policy is that redirects should be appropriately categorized, same as articles).

Awards like the Newbery Honor or Scott O'Dell Award for Historical Fiction are ignored (the recipient books were still described as "non-notable"), either because the blanking editor didn't search for such issues beforehand, or because they didn't even read the cites and references already in the articles. Andy Dingley (talk) 23:56, 15 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

No, User:TenPoundHammer deleted the so-called Notes (formerly section 3, not endnotes) of #6 City of Light, City of Dark and gave edit summary "(→‎Notes: in-universe crap)". As reported, the same user replaced the other seven novel articles by plain redirects to this biography.

I replaced the bullet points by numerals for easy reference. These were the important header maintenance tags, with my remarks, ignoring #6.

{{orphan}} — 3, 5 (literally false), 8 (substantially false --Scott O'Dell Award)

{{unreferenced}} — 4, 7 (true of all except #3)

{{refimprove}} — 2

{{confusing}} — 1

#1 is a sequel and as a redirect its target should be first book in the series, which should cover the series briefly (eg, in section Series) in lieu of a series article or complete set of book articles.

Andy Dingley is right that ordinary categories should generally be retained, as should DEFAULTSORT. At least one of the Category:Redirect templates should be added to the first line.

--P64 (talk) 20:45, 4 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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