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Few more questions

First:

into the multi-ethnic Grand Duchy of Lithuania, Ruthenia and Samogitia, with its capital initially in Horodno, later in Navahradak (now in western Belarus) and finally in Vilnia.

When did Grand Duchy of Lithuania became only Ruthenia and Samogitia? Did not missed - Lithuania?

Horodno as a capital Grand Duchy of Lithuania? When? If you writing capitals of Grand Duchy of Lithuania write all of them – Trakai Kernavė Voruta ; not only which you like!

Second:

Initially mostly Ruthenian and Orthodox, with time most of them became polonized. This was especially true for major magnate families (Sapieha and Radziwiłł clans being the most notable)

Do you really think that Radziwiłł family represents Orthodox? Family started from Trakai (Lithuania) and later developed into 3 branches – Biržai–Dubingiai (Protestant branch), Olyka and Nieswiez (catholic branch); and a branch which died out very soon - Goniadz–Medele (catholic branch)

M.K.

Pov removed

I've removed two highly pov sections from the paragraph "Republic of Belarus. Communist economy in a political democracy." Most of the section read like a paranoid crusade to dismiss certain views on Belarus, and like a massive defense of Lukashenko. The phrases I've removed are:

"...radical right wingers use to call Belarus "the last dictatorship in Europe", a propaganda cliche used against left wing governments by private owned enterprises lobbying for its appropiation of public owned state controlled resources." (the reference for this claim is a news forum btw, which doesn't meet our external link guidelines.
"...representative of frustrated capitalist interests in privatization of public enterprises. Under Lukashenko Belarus has seen economical prosperity with continuity of state control of the economy ("communism"). Eighty percent of the economy of Belarus remains under state control, just as it was in the Soviet Socialist Republic of Belarus. This is irritating to right-wingers, such as many in "the West" who fear that the example of Belarus demonstrates viability of communism in comparison to Russia´s experience with privatization and subsequent corruption and stealing of public resources."

A ecis ^{No running, shouting or piddling in the shallow end} 18:53, 8 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Expanding this?

Hi folks. This article looks in dire need of re-writing and expanding, to me. What are the current hotspots here? Yury Tarasievich 11:59, 21 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Belarusian Soviet Republic and West Belarus

The same number of lines described language limitations in Poland and mass extermination in Soviet Belarus. POV.Xx236 08:18, 20 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

including practically all its intellectual elite

So the intelectual elite murdered in 1937 died for the second time? Xx236 08:22, 20 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Polish population often collaborated with German occupation administration.

The same "Belarus population often collaborated with German occupation administration". Xx236 08:37, 20 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

In total, Belarus lost a quarter of its pre-war population in the Second World War

False, Belarus had more population after the war than before it.Xx236 08:44, 20 June 2007 (UTC). If 'after the war' means 40 years after -- this makes sense... the whole article on belarus seems to be written by non-natives, and has lots of false statements...[reply]

Ethnos

The word 'ethnos' is pretentious use of Greek, needless, and is not good English. Is the phrase 'ethnic group' not politically correct enough already? And what is wrong with 'the Belarussian people'? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 41.185.167.243 (talk) 13:50, 20 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

1812

Szlachta (gentry) joined Napoleon's army - not mentioned here . (be-tarsk) Беларуская шляхта ў часе вайны 1812 году падтрымала Напалеона,Xx236 (talk) 14:29, 12 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

References, please. It is a known fact that Polish nobility hoped for liberation from Russia by Napoleon. There is no such thing as "Belarusian szlachta". Nobility is national concept, not ethnic. Nationalistic be-tarsk is poor source for historical facts, since it is skewed into exaggeration of Belarusian glory. - üser:Altenmann >t 16:11, 12 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Nobility is national concept, not ethnic. - any sources? What about Konstanty Kalinowski? Members of gentry joined nationalistic anti-Polish movements, see Romer family, Andrey Sheptytsky. Four brothers were Lithuanian, Polish and Belarus (two Iwanowski-s, Tadas Ivanauskas, Ivanoŭski). The main division in Belarus was religious (Roman Catholic against Orthodox) rather than national.Xx236 (talk) 08:13, 15 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

The usage of Belarusian language

Which Belarusian language 1920-1939? There existed at least two dialects, not mentioning West Polesian microlanguage. In another words - the Polish government didn't support unification of Belarusian language, was it oblidged to do it? Does Lithuanian government support unification of Polish language in Lithuania today, in the EU?Xx236 (talk) 08:21, 15 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Piasecki ?

The page is about History of Belarus. The Piasecki paragraph should be rewritten or removed.Xx236 (talk) 10:21, 15 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

the Nazis attempted to establish

But they established in 1943.Xx236 (talk) 10:40, 15 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

POV

This article presents Belarus POV. History of minorities (Poles, Jews) should be described.Xx236 (talk) 08:12, 17 February 2016 (UTC) The article lacks references since 2012.Xx236 (talk) 08:13, 17 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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"independent feudal consolidation"

I have no idea what this means. Or is supposed to mean. Srnec (talk) 00:37, 13 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]