Talk:Brussels sprout

What about Rijssel sprouts? from Rijsel (Lille)?

Should I link the stuff I have happened upon anent the aforesaid Rijsel/Rijssel sprouts?

Think the main difference is that Rijsel sprouts unlike Brussel sprouts are moreso yellow and black hued rather than green and lighter green. Also Rijsellers have a sharperlike (or is it duller?) smatch and crunchiness to them. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A00:23C7:9C97:5D01:991E:F6A5:D997:DF11 (talk) 16:53, 7 February 2022 (UTC)

It is more often known and said as “Brussel sprouts” not “Brussels sprouts”

Why on earth would the aforesaid information be seemingly censored? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A00:23C7:9C97:5D01:F5DA:ADA6:7D3B:FDAE (talk) 22:53, 24 June 2022 (UTC)

Quite. I've never heard anyone say "Brussels sprouts" nor seen them write it; except on Wikipedia, but Wikipedia does seem to have a developed an annoying habit of trying to enforce standards that nobody uses. For the record I'm in the UK, which I mention as someone in the archived talk suggested Brussels-with-an-S sprouts is the local usage here, which it's not, at least not IME. --Vometia (talk) 14:46, 23 July 2022 (UTC)

The article is written in American English, and I suspect 'Brussels sprouts' is the more common term there. I agree 'Brussel' is standard in the UK. UK/US spats over common vegetable names occur frequently on WP. --Ef80 (talk) 19:22, 25 November 2022 (UTC)

The Americans do not say Brussels sprouts. They say (and write) Brussel sprouts without the “s”. The native Dutch spelling for the capital of Belgium happens to be “Brussel” Englishspeaking Wikipedia leaves seem to have some kind of creepy inbuilt Francophone agenda going on hence the enforcing of “Brussels” as an tribute to Francophonism. 2A00:23C7:2B13:9001:45A1:F89B:B551:B329 (talk) 22:58, 29 December 2022 (UTC)

I remember that I, too, thought it was "Brussel sprouts" when I was a child. Then I grew up and realized that most people can't spell. Richard K. Carson (talk) 01:46, 7 May 2023 (UTC)

Robert Rankin

Since many of your articles are cluttered up with seemingly useless Popular Culture sections in which the most trivial of references, especially being casually mentioned in passing on "The Simpsons", are listed as if they were tremendously important, would it not be in keeping with your policies regarding what is and is not useful information that belongs in a real encyclopedia to point out that the best-selling humorous author Robert Rankin has written numerous books which feature as a major character a sentient Brussels sprout called Barry? Not to mention quite a few which actually have "sprout" in their titles. Just saying. 86.130.233.165 (talk) 09:33, 20 October 2022 (UTC)

Historical cultivation

I should have come here first, to avoid what just happened due to my reckless changes. To the point: the sources seem rather contentious on when Brussels sprouts were first cultivated.

• From Brussels Times, we have "the cultivation of cabbages and sprouts in Saint-Gilles is said to go back as far as the 13th century."
• From UGA, "a popular vegetable crop in Belgium during the sixteenth century from which they were spread to the surrounding countries throughout temperate Europe."
• From Food Timeline, "sometime between the 17th and 18th century." (This also quotes World History of Food, which is where the "first recorded description in 1587" comes from.)

I don't doubt that the progenitors of this cultivar came from ancient Rome as that general area is corroborated by other sources that discuss different Brassica oleracea histories. How specific can the history be on when something that can be recognized as a Brussels sprout originated? Reconrabbit 03:19, 11 January 2024 (UTC)

What's your point? The article already mentions the uncertainty. And your second ref makes no claim as to when they were first cultivated. It simply says they were popular in one area in the16th century.

Your third ref is quoting what various sources say. There is much more than just two differing dates in that one. For example, you don't mention the quote "cite stray references from Brussels in the 13th century and documents about wedding feasts of the Burgundian court at Lille in the 15th century." Meters (talk) 03:56, 11 January 2024 (UTC)

Then 1213 might be the "earliest" date, if it's corroborated between the two Oxford University Press books at the third source. Reconrabbit 14:35, 11 January 2024 (UTC)