Talk:Surfers Paradise, Queensland

Gold Coast Nightlife Precinct was nominated for deletion. The discussion was closed on 22 August 2013 with a consensus to merge. Its contents were merged into Surfers Paradise, Queensland. The original page is now a redirect to this page. For the contribution history and old versions of the redirected article, please see its history; for its talk page, see here.

This is the talk page for discussing improvements to the Surfers Paradise, Queensland article.
This is not a forum for general discussion of the article's subject.

Put new text under old text. Click here to start a new topic.
New to Wikipedia? Welcome! Learn to edit; get help.

Article policies

Find sources: Google (books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL

Australia: Places / Queensland Low‑importance

	Australia portal Surfers Paradise, Queensland is within the scope of WikiProject Australia, which aims to improve Wikipedia's coverage of Australia and Australia-related topics. If you would like to participate, visit the project page.AustraliaWikipedia:WikiProject AustraliaTemplate:WikiProject AustraliaAustralia articles
Low	This article has been rated as Low-importance on the project's importance scale.
	This article is supported by WikiProject Australian places (assessed as Low-importance).
	This article is supported by WikiProject Queensland (assessed as High-importance).
	Need help improving this article? Ask a Librarian^{What's this?} at the National Library of Australia, or the State Library of Queensland.
	The Wikimedia Australia chapter can be contacted via email to helpwikimedia.org.au for non-editorial assistance.

Untitled

I love the picture of schoolies in Cavill Mall. I added a mention of Cavill Mall within the article, so I took the liberty of changing the picture caption to reflect it's relationship to that location. --Randolph 05:13, 25 Mar 2005 (UTC)

I made a half hearted attempt to start to describe some of the history of Surfers Paradise and made mention of the old Paradise Hotel and the Birdwatcher's Bar. I was hoping it would inspire someone to do a better job than me, so feel free to use it as a spur to do something better. I have no real attachment to what I have written.

--Randolph 05:16, 25 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Shadows?

There is a reference in the intro paragraph to Surfers Paradise beach being in shadow for half of the day: "Because it is located on the east coast and the hotels overlook the beach, most of the beach falls into shadow after noon."

This is an urban myth, no doubt, started by someone trying to find fault with Queensland. It has been extradited over time.

These are the facts: The sun rises in the East so Surfer’s beach is in full sun for the majority of the day. In the very late afternoon when most people have left after baking in the sun all day, a couple of small shadows start to appear. They do not cover “most of the beach” as is described in this section and they are not there for half of the day.

Unless anyone can prove that Surfers Paradise beach is in darkness for half of the day, this sentence should be removed. --WikiCats 09:38, 3 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

I would have no complaints about it's removal. I pretty much view the statement the same way you do, WikiCats.--Randolph 21:57, 3 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

hello there! surfers is still a pretty great place, the sun is actually right over head it seems until 230pm ish in summer and thats when shadows would start of course. the picture titled 'sunsetatsurfers.jpg' is in fact morning and a foggy one at that. i'm not up to speed on how to properly edit on here yet, Planetfonz 05:50, 4 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The City's planning scheme requires buildings to be lower then a height that would cast a shadow before 3pm in the afternoon. Unfortantualy the Council has recently abandoned enforcing this requirement and a new building - Soul - in Surfers Paradise will cast a shadow prior to 3pm onto the beach. It is certainly true that the beaches are in full sun for the majority of the day.

Edit to History on 8 January 2006 09:15

Mea culpa, just a quick note to say that I've made some changes to the History section which I described in the Edit Summary but accidentally marked as 'minor' - and they're a bit more substantial than that, so lest anyone out there think I'm trying to mask something significant, here I am proclaiming it! Cheers, Ian Rose 09:31, 8 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Looks OK to me.--WikiCats 10:02, 8 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

It's interesting to me that the stuff from this article was also present on the external Gold Coast website. I picked it up from a public domain source, which I happened to google up when I first started editing at wikipedia. I'd be interested to know who copied who. :) The Gold Coast Website may have gots its information from the source I got it from (I should have recorded a link in the references but I was just learning then). The source I used, provided the basis for a number of the articles on Gold Coast suburbs and Surfers Paradise was just one of them. --Randolph 13:16, 8 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

References

The source for the history information really should be included here - I could write it myself, but a proper reference needs to be citied. I visited a site linked to from the external sites section, and it really wasn't relevant to Surfers - just a pic and some vague references. I might jump on the Council's website and get some more verifiable info. E-CBD 06:21, 3 February 2006 (UTC)E-CBD[reply]

OK, The history section is now correct, a little more substantial, and properly referenced. There's plenty more info, which could go in, but by then the article would have turned into Surfers Paradise History, so I'll leave it for now. E-CBD 06:55, 3 February 2006 (UTC)E-CBD[reply]

I'm rusty on how to edit messages on here...umm, anyone considered maybe making a list of the hotels in surfers and...well, bit of work, but maybe a couple of pics of the hotels and some reviews/descriptions if possible? Could just settle with a list of hotels then website links to the hotel sites?

I've put in a link to a Surfers Paradise virtual tour and image gallery. I realise these things can be contentious, but the resource seems pretty good. I'm happy to remove the link if anyone objects. Triki-wiki 23:13, 13 November 2006 (UTC)Triki-wiki[reply]

Please see WP:NOT#DIR [[User talk:Orderinchaos|Orderinchaos]] 22:24, 12 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Surfers Paradise in Song

Is "Jaded Cadence" noteworthy enough to be mentioned alongside Australian Crawl and Redgum? 114.78.1.121 (talk) 15:50, 5 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Population figure correct?

I find it impossible to believe that a municipality with that many high rise buildings has the population of a rural village. I live in a small city with no buildings over 12 stories and in its tiny 62 square km space it has about six times the population given for Surfers Paradise. I can't possibly be the only person to be confused by this - perhaps an explanation in the article would be appropriate? 24.91.244.221 (talk) 16:37, 15 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Surfers Paradise is only a suburb not the whole municipality (which is City of Gold Coast with population of 500K). I will try to make the suburb/city relationship clearer in the article. Kerry (talk) 22:35, 14 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Origin of name

The article seems to say that first use of Surfers Paradise was in 1917, but if you look at etymonline.com, the first reference to the word surfer is from 1955. Did I misunderstand something here? Mats (talk) 21:00, 12 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Well, I guess etymonline is wrong. Here is the 1917 newspaper advertisement ^[1] which I will add to the article. Kerry (talk) 22:45, 14 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

And I can find a reference to "surfer" that is unambiguously used in the context of swimming in the surf as early as 1909 ^[2] Kerry (talk) 22:55, 14 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

^ "Advertising". The Brisbane Courier (Qld. : 1864 - 1933). Qld.: National Library of Australia. 7 August 1917. p. 10. Retrieved 15 November 2012.
^ "PARLIAMENT HOUSE". The Sydney Morning Herald (NSW : 1842 - 1954). NSW: National Library of Australia. 24 September 1909. p. 6. Retrieved 15 November 2012.

Photo in infobox

Would anyone object to a more realistic photo in the infobox? While the current one is very artistic with the mist and the evening lights, it seems to be of Broadbeach judging from the Norfolk Island Pines on the beachfront. There are a number to pick from on Commons: Surfers Paradise photos I'm thinking this one because it capture the key elements of the place - the narrowness bounded by ocean and river, the beach, the highrises. What do others think? Kerry (talk) 02:26, 3 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

There are more on Flickr which we could upload to Commons. Bidgee (talk) 02:31, 3 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

File:Surfers Paradise, QLD skyline.jpg - where is it taken from?

It looks like we have the problem of someone having updated the infobox photo and not updated the caption which has resulted in some edits attempting to change it from Broadbeach to Broadwater and then reverted. So can we please all look at the photo and decide where it is taken from. Having spent a fair bit of time on the Gold Coast, this photo appears to me to be taken from the Nerang River looking past Budds Beach to the left (with the paddleboarders) towards the low bridge to Chevron Island on the right (aka Thomas Drive). The shorter yellow brick apartment block has "Vibe" on the roof with the white building to its left has "Waterways". These buildings are on the left side of the Nerang River just beyond the bridge. Please see this map for the buildings mentioned and this map for the approx location I believe the photo was taken from. If people agree with this, then I think the caption should be "as seen from the Nerang River" as it is neither taken from neither Broadbeach nor the Broadwater. Thanks Kerry (talk) 06:33, 8 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

[1] "Advertising". The Brisbane Courier (Qld. : 1864 - 1933). Qld.: National Library of Australia. 7 August 1917. p. 10. Retrieved 15 November 2012.

[2] "PARLIAMENT HOUSE". The Sydney Morning Herald (NSW : 1842 - 1954). NSW: National Library of Australia. 24 September 1909. p. 6. Retrieved 15 November 2012.

[1]

[2]